ARE WE CHRISTIANS Keeping Heaven Well in Mind,
Not the Least Our Day of Departure?
By Jan Lilleby
My question is quite obviously rhetoric – the answer hangs in the air – but I do not judge anyone: No, I think that we are not that good in keeping heaven up above in mind. It has reasons pretty common to most of us. We all live down here on earth, and tendency is that this earthly life takes up most of our attention. Naturally. It often overshadows the thought of a heaven up above awaiting our arrival…perhaps one day soon. But it is not an escape from reality to be thinking much on heaven and Christ. For a Christian this should be a natural thing, Well, that is how it should be I believe.
PAUL TO THE CHURCH:
“If then you have been raised with Christ, aim at and seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.” (Col 3:1)
Paul also points out the general time-aspect in this regard:
“And set your minds on what is above, not on the things that are on the earth. For you have died (from the world) and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, Who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory (in heaven).” (Col 3:2-4)
THE TIME ASPECT:
Jesus Himself spoke of this Second Advent for His believers in light of Him returning in the life time of the apostles.
His coming was immanent in the entire length of the Acts history, some 30 years. It should have taken place after Israel’s repentance and baptism according to Peter’s speech at Pentecost in Acts 2. God charged the whole nation to repent and believe on Jesus Messiah.
This special immanent coming promised them, Jesus told them not to make wild speculations of the time for that event. (Acts 1:7)
His coming was absolutely under special conditions: The entire nation of Israel had to repent and believe, or else the nation would be destroyed. See Peter’s second speech in Acts 3:22, 23 – pointing to a prophesy by Moses of a destruction to come if they did not believe. You find this in Deu 18:15-19. But even so, the Acts witness of a disobedient and unrepentant Israel saying a final ultimate ‘no thanks!’ to the offer given them by God’s apostles.
But in regard to the ultimate coming of Jesus (for He must come, regardless of whether Israel would receive Him) – the prophets have spoken. He, who spoke the more direct message to Israel, was Hosea. He was sent to the Northern Kingdom, the ten tribes.
God gave him a specific time aspect which we can fully trust, regarding the Second Advent!
When we – put briefly – shall set a time-frame or an approximate calculation of it, the time in which we can expect the conclusion of this present dispensation of the Church, such information has been laid down in Hos 6:2 – speaking of the ‘two days’ and a ‘third day’. These are so-called ‘Prophetic Days’ and not regular calendar days: Each day represent one thousand years.
When reading Hos 6:2 we have to start with the end of Chapter 5, which clearly tells us the ‘Us’ in 6:2 are not us of this time, it is the fallen unbelieving sinful Israel. 5:15 speaks of Messiah going home to heaven, and not returning back to Israel before they acknowledge their offense. So it reads:
“After two days He will revive us (Israel); on the third day He will raise us up that we may live before Him.”
Hos 5:15 has placed these three millennia or ‘Days’ in a direct indisputable context of the Lord’s Second Advent. Don’t you agree?
In other words, the prophet thereby say that it had to be a day before those three mentioned, a ‘Day’ in which Israel died spiritually and fell away from God consequently. Agreed?
To be revived (back to life), as this word really means, and is telling that there had been a death first. Israel died. To be revived AFTER two thousand years have passed, must therefore mean that Israel are revived back to her old status as God’s nation sat above all other nations, like before the fall which we read in Acts 28:25-28 – especially verse 27, they will not repent so I can heal the land.
After these two thousand years Israel will be made whole and healed, all according to the prophesies concerning the Millennial reign of Christ. The third day, or millennia, is that Millennia prophesied, for sure. And we are not yet there. And Israel cannot get there before Jesus has returned from heaven.
In order for Israel to come fully back to God, the present dispensation has to be ended. God cannot have two different callings going parallel. This Church dispensation with its free grace gospel will end the same day that Elijah (and also Moses, Rev 11) appears in Israel, to start the Great Tribulation. But Israel in the Millennia, shall be serving Christ as His Royal Holy priesthood, all according to Ex 19:5, 6. But we, the Church of the One New Man in Christ (Eph 2:15) our calling is to be with Christ in the heaven up above heavens. We have no share in the earthly kingdom Millennia. These are two entirely different callings indeed.
That is why I find it right to present two alternative time-aspects for the conclusion of the Church dispensation:
The first: God sees Israel as having died in the year 62 AD, when Paul read them the stern judgement from Is 6 in Acts 28:25-28.
The second: God sees Israel as having died in the year 70 AD, when Rome broke through the fortifications and had Jerusalem and the temple destroyed.
There are not found any other realistic alternatives to this scenario in the Bible.
(Recently I found a few YouTube videos of a guy foretelling from stellar constellations, that the coming of judgement day would be at September 24 if I recall this correctly. In other words, he tried to figure it by Astrology, which is an occult method for predictions. Never believe such rubbish, friends. Believe on Christ and His Word, the Bible. Nothing happened at Sep 24 – and the poor fellow was put to shame…)
If it is the first alternative: then we find that the year of the conclusion of the Church age will be around 2026 – yes, a dramatically short time interval. Using the Jewish calendar of 360-days year. The Bible says that Elijah shall be sent before the day of the Lord (Matt 17, Mal 4, Rev 11) and with Moses. As the Church disappears from earth, Elijah appears on earth, to administer the Great Tribulation; to enforce the repentance of the Zionist Israel. And this means we only have 11 years left! I actually hope that this is the right alternative, but I can’t tell for sure. Like you, I am really sick and tired of the madness and calamities of this wrecked world.
If it is the second alternative: then we find the conclusion of the Church age to be in around 2034, which also is a short time, only 19 years. (Now is 2015)
So it is clear that our expectation to THAT DAY of departure for heaven should increase by the day as we look up and forward to that glory with Christ!
EDITED Nov 3-2015: I was made aware recently, that the Jewish Calendar – as it always follows moon-earth equation – for every 19 years, add a ‘Leap Month’ of 30 days (Ve-Adar) – that is in other Words a 13th month actually. But it still does not shake my use of Hos 6:2 much. As mentioned in another article, I have pointed to the discreppancy of the ‘Four years with Governor Quirinius’ as head of Syrian Roman rule. According to Roman logbooks he was Governor four years before Our calendar of Christ’s birth. This – together With the 13th month only adds up to around 5 years more than the years I have used above, and so we are left with the same impression regarding timeline: It is but a few years left of the Church Dispensation! My intension never was to come up with exact days-months-years anyway. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION!
It is clear that there will not pass new centuries before this happens. This is my main issue in this regard.
When we in this same breath take a brief look at the world situation with all the unrest, wars, rebellions, ISIS murder gangs, and the huge number of refugees fleeing for their lives, – it occurs to me that also the Lord might find it reasonable and timely to end it all. It seem to be on high time for the return of Jesus Christ to take the rudder and steer this plagued earth into peace and order, ending all wars. He Who is given all power and might in heaven and on earth.
THE WORLD SITUATION:
Right now (autumn 2015) we have gotten the huge flow of refugees fleeing from war in Syria up through Europe, looking for a better place to stay.
That which the evil conspiring Zionist Israel stand behind, we Norwegians or other folks up north are imposed to bear the expenses for. And where will it all end?
Obviously our nation should try to offer some help, but on the other hand we cannot just give away our nation to strangers, can we? It has to have a limit whether we like it or not.
I think Zionist Israel which created this panic (by establishing the ‘Rent-A-Mob’ murder gang ISIS with CIA and Mossad), should open their borders and offer the poor refugees shelter. They could pay their expenses for what they themselves have caused. What a dirty game. They just dump their dirty work on our lawns.
By the way, have you noticed something very strange about this whole thing? When do you ever hear or read about ISIS attacking Israel? Have ISIS bombed Tel Aviv or Haifa? No, you only find this Rent-A-Mob in all the other places. And have you noticed: Where on God’s green earth do they get their brand new Toyota Pick Up trucks from? And the money to eventually buy such expensive equipment? It all comes out pretty odd don’t you think?
All of a sudden the ISIS popped up out of nowhere…and all the world screamed MURDER, MURDER!!!…and media (Jewish ones mostly!) had lined up ready footage and videos of the dangerous mob. Including the ‘beheadings’ – which not long ago were exposed as pure hoax. It had been filmed in a studio and images faked. There never were any beheadings. It is all constructed by Mossad/CIA so the blame can be cast upon the Muslims, demonizing them. In other words, the usual standard well approved technique of ‘False Flag’ operations constantly used by Zionist Israel from way back.
The war-monger John McCain, chairman of the American Defense Committee (I am uncertain of the right name) openly confessed in TV interviews to have stood behind CIA-training of the national Syrian rebels, in order to remove Assad. (McCain is a much hated/despised war monger by millions of honest peace loving US citizens).
And behind it all: The Zionist Israeli lobby in USA, which tells Obama and his staff and government what to do and what not! This has been standard procedure since the days of the Roosevelts, and only resisted by John F. Kennedy.
We all know what happened to him…you know, standing up against the Jewish lobby.
When will all of this come to an end?
I have the answer – just give me a few more minutes of your time, please.
It will not be, for instance, to start a new civil war to bring down the criminals. Has to be something/someone much more powerful! Get my drift?
I only want to mention Putin, before I give you my real answer. Finally a few days back, Russia made severe air attacks against ISIS and rebel forces in Syria. And he is promising more, for as long as it takes. Putin does not want to play by the ‘rules’ of the wicked New World Order, who screwed up entirely in Iraq…since no weapons of mass destruction were ever found.
They murdered Saddam in cold blood, after having demonized him. As they later on also murdered Gadhafi. The N.W.O. gang don’t give a ‘rat’s ass’ in any national leader, elected by his people or not. They only go for their own greedy agenda and goals of world dominion, so they can let Zionist Israel take over once dust settles. All the world knows very well that it is the Jewish Zionist lobby in USA that decide what the nation shall do or not. The presidents and congress are obedient puppets all together.
When shall this cruel and illicit madness be stopped, and how? Israel is, for crying out loud, the mouse which holds the elephant’s ear leading it on.
IT WILL HAVE TO BE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST TO SETTLE IT ONCE AND FOR ALL!
New World Order and its partners will be totally shocked and knocked out of their boots, when Jesus Christ appears on the sky with a host of super-natural angels.
You can forget those stupid and untrue images/paintings of a ‘Dandy’ Jesus with a little lamb wrapped around His neck. No, it is the fierce powerful Christ seen in Rev 19-20 Who kills Anti-Christ and the other ungodly persons mentioned. Two thirds of the unbelieving population will go down, and only one third will be spared. See below.
Since the ungodly lot of Zionists never believed on Jesus, but on the contrary they blasphemed His holy name (see Talmud, which is full of dirt!), – they will be even more shocked, scared and shaken than any other group of unbelieving conspirators.
Paul puts it this way:
“And to you who are so distressed and afflicted, He shall grant you relief and rest along with us WHEN THE LORD JESUS IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN WITH HIS MIGHTY ANGELS IN A FLAME OF FIRE. To deal out retribution (chastisement and vengeance) upon those who do not know or become acquainted with God, and who ignore and refuse to obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (2 Thes 1:7, 8)
The Lord spoke of the same event and prophesied:
“Then the sign of the Son of Man (the cross?) will appear IN THE SKY, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and beat their breasts and lament in anguish, and they WILL SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY.”(Matt 24:30)
Revelation 19:11-16 show Jesus coming in great Power and glory:
“After that I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The One Who was riding it is called Faithful, Loyal, Incorruptible and True, and He passes judgment and wages war in righteousness. His eyes blaze like a flame of fire, and on His head are many kingly crowns; and He has a title inscribed which He alone knows. He is dressed in a robe dyed by dipping in blood and the title by which He is called is The Word of God. And the troops of heaven, clothed in fine linen, dazzling and clean, followed Him on white horses. From His mouth goes forth a sharp sword with which He can smite the nations; and He will sheperd and control them With a staff of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath and indignation of God the Almighty. And on His garment and on His thigh He has a name inscribed: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.”
In the time before Paul and Jesus spoke of here, it is that we find the two prophets in Rev 11 – Moses and Elijah – who has chastised and worked miracles of plagues and disasters (called Egyptian Plagues) against the ungodly Zionist Israel. So much that the nation is almost beaten flat to the ground in pain, destruction and fear. Revelation Book say of those stricken: And they blasphemed God for these plagues. You see, blasphemy is a long, long practiced mishabit and grave sin among the world Jewry, especially those Zionist Jews in this scenario.
The Lord will no longer show mercy and longsuffering, but He swiftly cast a huge scary doom and destruction upon them, and no one can escape!
See my little booklet on this subject – “Moses And Elijah Coming with The Day of Vengeance” – to download for free. In Word format.
Jesu at His coming will only perform as the wrathful Judge of God and the Revenger of all blasphemy against His Holy Name (Ezek 36:23).
He is also the Executioner as He personally will execute those who oppose Him at His coming. All those among humankind who have stood against God and Christ as atheists, blasphemers, jesus-haters, murdering conspirators like New World Order, the Rothschilds money-lovers, the corrupted military powers, the criminal national leaders going along with N.W.O and Zionists, false evangelicals who supported Christ’s worst enemies on earth, the Zionists, and all who have committed fraud including the Holohoax, the 9/11 kills, the establishing of Rent-A-Mob ISIS and others like them – ALL WILL BE TAKEN SWIFTLY DOWN by Christ and His powerful angels! It is not going to be pretty! These New World Order leaders from the smallest to the greatest, they may smile now, but as Christ appears in such fierce and shocking manner, their smiles and selfassuredness will fall off like shells, and they will beg for mercy.
Only God knows in detail what will befall those ungodly men wherever in the world they may hide, after He first has established His Millennial Kingdom in Jerusalem. There will be the destruction of all types of Mafias everywhere! All conspiracy will be smashed to rubbles. All weapons of massdestruction will be confiscated and destroyed by Gods angelic powers. No more nukes.
If anyone tries to keep up the Holohoax fraud – likewise he shall be taken down, whether by imprisonment or killed right away. Scripture even say that if a man try to deliver a (false) prophesy, his own parents – in the presence of the Lord – shall sting him through with a spear! (Zec 13:3) Their ‘Holy Temple’ of the Holocaust-religion, Auschwitz with its Disneyland like function, false watchtowers and a gas chamber built after WW2, will be leveled with the ground. No more falsehood driven by the money greed of Jewry.
I will not be surprised if Christ from Mt Zion in Jerusalem, will speak to the nations on media, telling them the true historic facts from the two world wars and other relevant information/truths. We can expect something like that, I believe. The world will be shocked again to learn that Holocaust-revisionists were right. Christ may also find it in His will to speak of 9/11 and related disasters. The world has a lot coming to them, I can assure you. Christ’s coming is so close to our time and the war-years past, that this seems linked together somehow. The Lord, I believe, cannot and will not pretend the wars didn’t happen – so He will give His rightful lecturing on the subject.
Zechariah gives a prophetic forewarning of what will take place at the coming of Christ in Israel: (I already mentioned this above)
“And in all the land (Israel), says the Lord, two-thirds shall be cut off and perish, but one-third shall be left alive.” (Zec 13:8)
Moses said same thing: “And you (Israel) shall be left few in number, whereas you had been as the stars of the heavens for multitude, because you would not obey the voice of the Lord your God.” (Deu 28:62)
If Israel have increased to a population of – let’s say – 12 million in about 20 years from now, that will mean 8 million will be killed in the Great Tribulation, a considerable figure…even surpassing the Holohoax-fraud of 6 mill dead in WW2.
ZIONISM WITH ITS CONSPIRATIVE ISRAEL MEETS SUDDEN DEATH.
And as I mentioned, the Holocaust-fraud is dumped in grave just as soon. All other lies and false Jewish Talmud and Kabbalah religions goes to the same destiny – dumped forever. All false religions will be taken care of in a righteous manner overseen by Christ.
The Lord Christ Jesus will re-configure and re-arrange every national government that opposes Him or otherwise tries to work against His government for the Millennial Kingdom. If an ungodly dishonest fraudulent American President try to manipulate his office, the Lord will see to it that he is removed and punished. This goes for any leader anywhere in the world. No more faked elections and secret under-the-table-deals, no more inside-tradings. I even think that the occult symbolic obelisk called the Washington Monument, will have to go. It is an offence to the Lord that a nation which has a slogan “In God We Trust” – displays the opposite, an obelisk of occult masonic value, actually blaspheming God! Why not have a cross on top of a pillar? That would point to Christ and His atonement.
Dan 2:44 has already made it very clear regarding Christ’s governing power world-wide:
“…shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people (than the believing Jews): BUT IT SHALL BREAK AND CRUSH and consume all these kingdoms and it shall stand forever.”
As I said, Christ will use His immense power and wisdom to restrain all opposition and eventual conspiracy against Him and His Kingdom. He will crush and break any nation which tries to go against Him!
It is true when the prophets foretold of His reign as King: He shall govern the nations with His iron rod or staff – he shall kill the ungodly with the breath of His mouth, and He shall help the poor and inflicted.
The populations of the world will via media be able to see angels from heaven ascend and descend over the throne of Christ in Jerusalem:
“I tell you all, you shall see heaven opened, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man!” (John 1:51)
The reason for this move by God is obvious I think: The angels are a heavenly super-natural group of servants/even warriors sent by God, but whom we only know from the pages of the Bible. We haven’t seen any of them ourselves. The apostles saw them, as did Maria and a few others. But for the world in general to keep calm and be certain of the divine present power resting upon Christ, He let His angels be seen flying and landing near the temple site, and thus have peoples kept in awe of God and His power.
What remains after all the tribulations are then stilled and all is calm, is a NEW JESUS-BELIEVING ISRAEL, now with the old tribal system in place (Rev 7 and 14) – and Jesus governing together with His elect apostles from the tribulation past (see Rev 20:4-5).
No matter how much we as human beings in this world tries to rectify and make straight all the errors and Jewish frauds from WW1 and WW2 etcetera – and to try to remove bad presidents/national leaders/ New World Order, Rothschilds tyrants, whoever…there cannot be expected any serious result of such eventual efforts/actions, – we are absolutely dependent upon the Lord Jesus Christ to come from heaven such as described. And He will! We can trust the Bible on this one hundred percent.